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Ban pressure cookers now

April 28, 2013

To the editor: According to reports, the Boston Marathon bombers detonated two bombs made out of pressure cookers and had at least one other in their possession that remained undetonated....

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Anderson

May-06-13 10:27 PM

WMD, Cranky? You might actually learn something about that were you simply to google "Democrat Quotes on WMD" (all made in the run-up to the Iraq War, incidentally). Then get a reality check at "Obameter: Campaign promises."

Anyone seriously interested in corruption and cronyism in Obama Administration appointments - which excludes Cranky, of course - might also google "Pritzker bank failure" to check out the role of Penny Pritzker, Obama's new Commerce Secretary appointee, in the very first sub-prime mortgage fiasco and the $460 million in fines she and her brother agreed to pay as a kind of "get-out-of-jail" card to avoid prosecution for bank fraud. Still HOPING for CHANGE, anyone?

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keepitreal

May-04-13 2:11 AM

Wow!! Ban pressure cookers? Either you wrote that as a joke(I assume you did)or you are dumb as a box of hammers! you know if ya get the rite mix of chemicals in a paper bag it will explode with enough force to turn a garden shed into match sticks so maybe paper bags, shoeboxes, etc.etc. should be banned!

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gssmms

May-03-13 9:54 PM

No doubt that both Anderson AND CG could list political lie after lie after lie over the last 10, 20, 50, 100 or 1000 years.

If only there was someone... ANYONE... on these forums advocating that we stop arguing about the players, and do something... or at least take a look at... the game!

You know, put aside the endless AND well documented "R" vs. "D" arguments and lists of broken promises by both parties... and look for some solution that will actually fix the toxic system that allows these bacteria to get by with what they do... year after year, century after century... regardless of their "party."

If only there was someone suggesting that. Oh... wait... :-)

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CrankyGrandma

May-03-13 9:17 PM

Oh, you want to play broken promises? How far back would you like to go? Your most recent "man" is still reviled around the world and known for his grievous lies right here at home. Want to start with him?

I'll go first. WMD.

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Anderson

May-03-13 9:12 PM

You don't even listen to your own man, Cranky; Obama promised repeatedly to end all govt/corporate hanky-panky such as lobbyists joining his administration. Speaking of "blah, blah, blah," you describe Obama and his Administration to a T as promise after promise has failed to materialize.

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CrankyGrandma

May-03-13 11:58 AM

You ramble on and on about 80 years ago blah blah blah and then make the astounding declaration that it's all Obama's fault.

You sir, are deemed magisterial.

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Anderson

May-03-13 11:01 AM

For 80years, Cranky, one govt induced crisis has merely led to another govt induced crisis. If your think govt action has SOLVED more problems than it has created, you can't count, either. No surprise there.

Unfortunately, gssmms, it has been 70,000+ pages of IRS code and UNCOUNTABLE pages of govt regulation, continually being fiddled by successive congresses and presidents that created K Street and all its lobbyists with the deep pockets. Even for the reluctant of corporations, playing the political game has become a matter of survival, which socialists like Cranky refuse to recognize. Remember all those Obama promises to stop the revolving door? Fat chance without fundamentally reform a hopeless morass.

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gssmms

May-02-13 8:28 AM

Thanks for correcting me on the source, CG. I just watched a YouTube video of Hillary Clinton speaking to the European Parliment, where she used that phrase, and she was, indeed, quoting Rahm.

(The clip is 1:48 long and can be found by a YouTube search for:

"Never waste a good crisis" - Hillary Clinton)

Interesting that one of the comments on the video was a quote: "Crisis is the rallying? cry of tyrants" -Edmund Burke

Mr. Burke pretty well reflects my thoughts on the issue.

Thanks again for the correction.

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CrankyGrandma

May-01-13 9:44 PM

It was 2008 and it was Rahm Emanuel, which is why Andy thought he had some sort of "gotcha" moment. As usual, he failed.

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CrankyGrandma

May-01-13 9:43 PM

Her? It was a "him", so I guess that goes to show the depth of your understanding, gss. I expect this kind of uninformed asinine stuff from Andy, but not you.

This opportunity isn't lost on the new president and his team. "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste," Rahm Emanuel, Mr. Obama's new chief of staff, told a Wall Street Journal conference of top corporate chief executives this week.

He elaborated: "Things that we had postponed for too long, that were long-term, are now immediate and must be dealt with. This crisis provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before."

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gssmms

May-01-13 5:08 PM

@CG - “I think it reflects quite honestly on the person who said it.”

Agreed! It certainly DOES reflect honestly about the person who said it, and her (and those like her) attitude about the “Village” (State) raising our children… as well as the State controlling everything from weapons to food to water to energy to __________.

If only the “representatives” were representing the people and not the corporations, it might be palatable.

I simply don’t trust that the gov’t knows what’s best for the people… and if they do know, I don’t trust that they will DO what is best for the people.

I believe they are basically political prostitutes, and will do whatever the corporate pimps command them to do.

So, yes, CG, it DOES reflect the person who said it… unfortunately.

Our disagreement will likely be in that I don’t trust the source of the quote, and you seem to.

(My disagreement with Anderson will probably be that I don’t trust the corporate pimps, and he may. I'm not su

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CrankyGrandma

May-01-13 1:49 PM

Either you're being deliberately dense or you think everybody else is, gss and Andy. Anybody with the ability to read knows that you learn from every situation - which is exactly what this quote means. I think it reflects quite honestly on the person who said it. With every disaster we learn more about the ways we can prevent/help another.

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jamesf

Apr-30-13 9:05 PM

Hboc, please do not forget the ninjas and their stars. Have you ever been hit by one? Gosh darn, they hurt. Kevins letter was in jest and we are having fun along with him. There are very few things in this world that cannot be used as deadly weapons, so what should our "leaders" make against the law next to make us feel safe?

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jamesf

Apr-29-13 9:18 PM

Gotcha Disagree. Guns are made for hunting and you have hunting knives. Guns are made for target shooting. Have you ever thrown a knife at a target? Do you kill a fish with a gun or knife? What were on the ends of rifles to use to kill when in close quarters? We could go on and on, but the simple fact is that no law will stop those that want to break it.

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TAXEDENOUGH

Apr-29-13 8:28 PM

Lets see, I think Shaw is from Laurens. That explains alot. It has got to be the water.

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jamesf

Apr-29-13 8:28 PM

Dodger, knives are made to do one thing, cut.

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jamesf

Apr-29-13 8:26 PM

Kevin, thanks for the laugh. The sad truth is congress passes "feel good" laws that do nothing. Its already aginst the law to break the law. How many criminals has that stopped?

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charge

Apr-29-13 8:03 PM

What a lame letter. How original: "Since someone used (insert inanimate object here) to kill people, I guess that means they should be OUTLAWED!!" I can't believe anyone took the time to pen something so unfunny and unoriginal. No matter which side of the issue you're on.

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Anderson

Apr-29-13 7:30 PM

As gssmms note, Cranky, the full quote merely reenforces my point. Alzheimer's. perhaps?

As for you, Fairplay, YOU LIE! I have never commented here under any name but my own. Would that it were a rule here, plus an available CV - so we might avoid all the fanciful ideology-based bloviation and ad hominem attacks.

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Colonelbanters

Apr-29-13 6:25 PM

I honestly can't believe there have been this many posts discussing one man's attempt at humor in his defense of overcompensation rant.

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Fairplay

Apr-29-13 5:28 PM

Hey..in Anderson's defense, he posted under a different name with half-truths previously. At least he's consistent.

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FtDlover

Apr-29-13 3:22 PM

Cranky, I too wondered if victims could see any humor in this LTE. I know I don't. To the victims and potential victims this is not just about gun owners' rights. Fortunately, a large majority of the country recognizes the NRA agenda has gone too far. We all - especially our children - deserve a balance of safety and lawful gun ownership.

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Whatever

Apr-29-13 10:11 AM

I have so many liberal beliefs but when it comes to guns I tend to side more with the conservatives. While I understand the concern about guns - I don't understand the insistence to blame the weapon and not the person behind it. Adam Lanza was a severely mentally ill young man who did not view the world as we see it...He felt the need to express his anger in the worst possible way and yet no law could have prevented it. We spend so much time trying to place blame on objects and others that we never seem to place the burden on the one who committed the act. I don't blame guns, pressure cookers, knives, or fertilizer - I put the blame where it belongs...on the sick individuals who takes the lives of others. Regardless of what laws you want in place - it will not keep a person who is desperate to hurt others from doing it.

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gssmms

Apr-29-13 8:53 AM

Oh, and before the Republicans start furiously clicking the "disagree" button... I'll confess AGAIN and remind you that I voted for both Bush presidents... the latter one twice.

You know, the one who used the "opportunity" of 9/11 to benevolently give us the "Patriot Act," the TSA, a couple undeclared, very bloody & expensive "wars," energy from fracking unencumbered by that pesky Clean water Act, and a host of other things that would have Thomas Jefferson calling for another revolution.

Oh, and it was also "W" who used the "opportunity" given him by Hurricane Katrina to ramp up FEMA.

You can decide if the corporations pulling the strings of these R or D puppets are "conservative" or "liberal." The puppets... if they are to stay in the play... lean whichever way the strings are pulled.

If they don't eventually lean the way they are pulled, the are simply replaced by some puppets who will.

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gssmms

Apr-29-13 8:46 AM

In this particular case, CG, I think that finishing the quote makes it reflect even more negatively on both the person who said it and the mentality it represents.

(when one has an idea of the agenda that they want forwarded by the "opportunity" presented.)

BTW: I'm convinced that the Democrats (credited with the quote) AND the Republicans are both forwarding basically the same agendas overall. The battles are framed in terms of Big Fuel, Food, 'Farma,' or "Freedom" but the marionettes pulling the strings behind the scenes are REALLY forwarding the same agenda that's been motivating them for millenia... Money & Power.

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