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Red ink remains a big problem

February 14, 2013

The cheering and applause you didn’t hear from Washington on Feb....

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Anderson

Feb-14-13 11:42 AM

Not to worry! Every govt "investment" pays for itself so all Obama's projects will not add a dime to the deficit and debt. We have his word for it; good as gold.

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bububud

Feb-14-13 12:36 PM

OMG...How many more times must the Messenger be reminded of the doubling of the national debt which occurred under the Bush/9% approval rating Cheney administration and their Republican controlled congress? I don't recall any concern for this "crisis" then! Much of the current spending and lack of revenue has its roots in that administration and their congress! Informed Americans know that, but righty simpletons still cannot accept the fact that the informed handed them a landslide loss on election day...a complete rejection of a "self" centered ideology of hate and exclusion, an ideology made to benefit the few. Editorials like this help in making their ideology more and more irrelevant...keep em coming boys!

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gssmms

Feb-15-13 11:00 AM

I think it's just adorable and cute that people still think that it makes a difference whether the thief is wearing a blue shirt or a red shirt while robbing your house and eroding the very foundation from it in the process.

Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, Politician (Democrat OR Republican) that wants to cut spending, balance the budget, or reduce the national debt... Great Pumpkin... oh, the list of fictional characters is adorable, isn't it.

I think if I saw two children fighting and in strife over who was "better," the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny, I'd tell them to stop fighting, because neither is real.

Watching these comments of people, day after day, fighting with real people, over which Politician is more benevolent or responsible is just as frustrating... because neither the fiscally responsible Democrat NOR Republican is real.

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Anderson

Feb-15-13 8:35 PM

OMG - when will bubu learn that DEMOCRATS Reid and Pelosi were in charge of a DEMOCRAT Congress AND federal expenditures the last two years of the Bush2 Administration, which was the very period during which DEMOCRAT Clinton's. affordable housing program went totally off the rails and then-Senator Obama. himself, cast the deciding US Senate vote that sank Republican legislation to rein in govt-backed sub-prime mortgages and prevent the housing boom & bust that brought about the 2008 global financial crisis and the worst US recession since the 30's? And about HALF the deficit during the Bush2 Administration's 8 years were accumulated during just the TWO years Pelosi and Reid ran that DEMOCRAT-controlled Congress!

But not to worry: Senate clown Harkin says we don't have a spending problem, but rather a "wealth distribution" problem - including his $16 million, perhaps? (All, incidentally, gotten while at the govt teat!)

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bububud

Feb-16-13 2:42 AM

Anderson...Soo righty of you...run up the national debt and then blame the Democrats. Let's refresh your memory..Two wars, two tax cuts (crazy in war time) and a Medicare drug plan all done with a Republican controlled congress, not paid for and prior to Democrat control in 2007. Along comes the recession and later in 2008, the Wall Street bank created economic meltdown. Lost tax revenue the result of rising unemployment, rising unemployment payments, higher food stamp usage greeted the new Democrat controlled congress. To you and many other looney toon righties, even the recession was caused by the Democrats. Funny, I'm hearing the "Twilight Zone" theme song. Turn off FOX, warm some milk and take some time to learn the facts. Americans overwhelmingly know the truth, why not you?

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Anderson

Feb-16-13 11:43 AM

You LEFTIES take responsibility for nothing, bubu. You ever hear of Carter's community development or Clinton's affordable housing programs, or those GSE promoters of affordable housing, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, both Democrat-led cash cows for Democrat politicians like Barney Frank, Chris Dodd AND Barrack Obama who, incidentally, promoted sub-prime loans in Chicago that broke a bank there already in 1996? It took until 2008 for YOUR affordable housing chickens to really come home to roost, and even longer for the city bankruptcies now in train. Likewise, with Clinton's cashing in the Reagan/BushI "peace dividend" and his and Gorelick's neglect of rising terrorist threats and actions in the name of civil rights, which led directly to 9/11 and its economic, military & budget consequences. Democrats didn't pay-as-you-go for any of their wars (WWI, WWII, Korea or Vietnam) but the Republicans did pay off the WWI debt. As for the drug plan, it's not substantially affected d

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Anderson

Feb-16-13 11:45 AM

...affected deficits yet.

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BigSlik1944

Feb-16-13 12:54 PM

Folks, we are NEVER going to get bububud to change his mind. He reminds me of Joe Biden behind BHO; every time you see him, his head reminds me of those bobble-headed dolls you can buy to put on your dashboard. And I will continue to watch CNN & Fox news simply because they are not in BHO's back pocket.

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bububud

Feb-16-13 1:31 PM

Anderson...Nobody is listening to the same old righty lines of argument, bud. Give it up, the election is over...find a hobby!

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bububud

Feb-16-13 2:04 PM

BigSlik1944...Hey Big, convince me, present SOMETHING once in a while in your attempt to change my mind! The floor is yours! Facts, bud, facts!

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BigSlik1944

Feb-16-13 3:08 PM

bububud, I could (but won't waste the time) with facts because your BHO rose-colored glasses would let you realize the truth. Sure, the election is over and America once again made the same mistake reelecting this jerk. From "change we can believe in" to "forward", the only forward I see is him attempting to control us as a dictator would. Just sayin'.

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bububud

Feb-16-13 4:02 PM

BigSlik1944...Hey, put it out there! I might agree with you. Give it a shot...ANYTHING, SOMETHING in support of your "dictator" comment! I've got the rest of the day, so convince me, bud!

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gssmms

Feb-16-13 5:43 PM

Interesting discussion. I'm more than willing to concede that bububud's facts are accurate... AND BigSlick's position is accurate... and Anderson's facts are acurate!! Why? Because it proves my point that it doesn't matter which party you defend or demonize... they are BOTH doing the same fundamental things WRONG... just in different manifestations of corruption or incompetency. "R" we, the citizens (subjects?) lose... and "D" we lose. Great game, huh? You folks ALL get to be correct in your assessments of the "other side's" failures... and our country still races toward hyperinflation and some bastardized form of governmental "ism." Ummm... may I offer my congratulations on 'winning' the argument?

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BigSlik1944

Feb-16-13 7:43 PM

US President Barack Obama quietly signed his name to an Executive Order on Friday, allowing the White House to control all private communications in the country in the name of national security. If that isn't dictotorship, I don't know what is. President Obama released his latest Executive Order on Friday, July 6, a 2,205-word statement offered as the “Assignment of National Security and Emergency Preparedness Communications Functions.” And although the president chose not to commemorate the signing with much fanfare, the powers he provides to himself and the federal government under the latest order are among the most far-reaching yet of any of his executive decisions.

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bububud

Feb-16-13 9:08 PM

BigSlik1944...I assume you're talking about EO 13618 signed in June of 2012? No more "dictatorial" than that of President Reagan when he signed one in 1984 designed to give the government communication priority after a nuclear attack or the one signed by President Bush in 2003 giving DHS responsibility for emergency response and communications during a national emergency. Just an update of the original two...no need for righty paranoia. Relax and get back to your FOX "facts!" Tell me, that wasn't your attempt to convince me was it? Try again...

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BigSlik1944

Feb-17-13 10:38 AM

OK, bu - President ReagaN signed one in 1984 designed to give the government communication priority after a NUCLEAR ATTACK or the one signed by President Bush in 2003 giving DHS responsibility for emergency response and communications during a NATIONAL EMERGENCY. Is your bro expecting problems or weren't the signatures of past presidents good enough for his highness? Oh, and this will be my last communication with you so enjoy your rose-colored world.

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bububud

Feb-17-13 3:43 PM

BigSlik1944...Not so "dictatorial" afterall, huh? I would suggest you look for other sources in your search for the truth and not rely on being told what to believe. Don't let your unjustified hate for a black man as president blind you to the truth. Your use of the term "bro" says alot about where you're coming from...not surprised though as righty state legislatures nationwide tried unsuccessfully to suppress black voters from voting at all last November. Is that a correct interpretation of our Constitution you righty's are always touting? Sorry you have chosen to run away from dialogue, but I have a feeling you'll be back...later, bud!

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Anderson

Feb-17-13 4:47 PM

bubu: Neither your nor Obama's howling about nefarious bankers, nor Holder's diversionary prosecution of S&P, alter the facts that 1) Democrat-led, federal govt coercion of lenders into extending sub-prime and Alt-A mortgages to people unable to meet previously applicable credit requirements of the FHA & VA mortgage guarantees, which had served us so well for 3 generations without excessive defaults, led directly and inevitably to the housing boom & bust and its attendant global financial crisis; and that 2) GSE's Fannie & Freddie not only backed 80% of those toxic mortgages but were first in line for govt bailouts and takeover. And none less than super-partisan Harry Reid's Democrat Senate investigating committee found the housing boom & bust to be "at the heart" of the financial meltdown. Your studied ignorance of these FACTS may be understandable, bubu, but misleading others is inexcusable LEFTIST demagoguery.

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BigSlik1944

Feb-18-13 11:21 AM

Thank you, soundco. And where was bububuds outrage when the Black Panthers were standing outside voting precincts in Florida last year? If that wasn't intimidation, I must not understand the meaning of the word.

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bububud

Feb-18-13 1:14 PM

BigSlik1944...I know you're not talking to me anymore but you did indirectly address me in you last post by mentioning me. It's only fair that I should get to responed, dont you agree? Outrage?...hardly. Intimidation?...Laughable. I would feel the same if it was a Nazi adorned skin head...two groups that have nothing better to do with their lives than to hate. Did FOX tell you how many times the Panther pulled the lever in the voting booth too? Were they armed with guns? I imagine that would be OK with you, right? Nobody was prevented by these guys from voting...just someone you had to walk around coming and going...let it go, bud. It amounted to nothing!

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Anderson

Feb-18-13 3:35 PM

Of course - if you say so, bubu. Of course that was in Philly, not Florida. Still, just one more example of the Democrats' double standard, now brought from "vote early and vote often" Chicago to DC by Obama, Holder and crew.

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calmer

Feb-24-13 1:04 PM

Is gssmms the only adult in the room?

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Anderson

Feb-24-13 2:31 PM

All administrations - and congresses - have made mistakes, calmer, but some mistakes were worse than others. For instance, Wilson's taking us into WWI and academician's dream of peace through world govt, or Henry Cabot Lodge's isolationist view that the US could insulate itself from future conflicts by assuming no responsibility for world stability (i.e. order) formerly secured primarily by Great Britain's navy and empire. Also, Kennedy's insertion of 22,000 "military advisers" into South Vietnam, ostensibly without assuming responsibility for South Vietnam's ultimate survival; or Bush's failure to follow his surgical punishment and destruction of the Taliban govt and the Islamic terrorists it abetted with a prompt, tactical withdrawal instead of a long-term, problematic nation-building exercise that he had previously eschewed. There are others, but also many successes, and they, too, not just woefully limited personal experiences, must inform present policy and actions.

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